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There was something pulling me up the mountain.

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Chris would come back from the grave just to protect him.

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I really don't know what it was.

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I can't explain it.

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I think nobody's gonna believe what's happening.

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She had premonitions before, but this was so real.

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She died on impact.

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I'm so scared!

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I'm scared!

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We've been visiting family in Sacramento.

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I just sat up in bed and had this thing inside me that I needed to go home.

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And I needed to go home then.

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I just felt like there was something pulling me up the mountain.

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We jumped in the car. We drove. It was late.

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We're on Highway 50.

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I don't like traveling the mountain at night time.

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It's a really wandy and twisty road.

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You can go off the road.

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I was looking out the window.

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And as we're going around, Boolean Bend, on the side of the road,

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I see this blackish-white thing.

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And I didn't know what it was.

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And when I was right up on it, I can tell that it was the woman.

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She was naked, totally naked and really white.

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I know that I saw her on that road.

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I have two kids. Christine was the oldest.

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Christine was very bubbly, very outgoing, very independent.

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Chris had a little boy, Nick.

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She was a mother that every little boy would love to have.

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One, two, three. Woo!

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Chris was really ambitious.

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She worked a couple jobs and put herself through college.

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And when she finally graduated, she got a job as a paralegal.

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600 miles away, down in Southern California.

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You guys have fun, huh?

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Finally, the time came when she had to leave.

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It was kind of sad.

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I see him going, but it was a happy time because she had what she worked for for so hard.

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I'll see you guys later. Bye!

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Chris said she would call us in a couple days, and we said, OK, no problem.

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Wednesday morning, we got a call from a friend of Chris.

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She said, hey, Chris isn't here. She was supposed to be here.

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Don't you guys care? So what are you talking about?

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She's making her way down to Southern California.

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And she goes, well, she was supposed to be here Monday.

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And here's Wednesday morning.

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Yes, yes, I'm trying to track down my daughter.

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Then, no, we started getting a little worried. They could be anywhere.

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I'm wondering if you have a record called The Hospitals.

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We called the police department.

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Yeah, I'd like to report this in person.

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Their response was, well, that's only 48 hours, and we get 200 calls like that a week.

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They more or less said, well, she'll show up. Don't worry about it.

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The first time I heard about this case, I was working for the El Dorado County Sheriff's Department.

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And my assignment at the time was working a patrol, graveyard patrol shift.

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We got a missing person. We got an adult female traveling with a young boy.

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Unknown direction to travel.

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The case with Christine initially was just a mother and her son who were in the same car.

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And she was in the same car with a young boy.

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Unknown direction to travel.

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The case with Christine initially was just a mother and her son who were moving to Southern California.

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Family has no idea where they want to go.

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There's people reported missing all the time, you know, every day throughout this country.

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Also got an assault with a knife.

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There was nothing out of the ordinary. I thought it was just another, I hate to say it, but a routine missing persons report.

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It's like, okay, what do we do now?

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We were handing out flyers and we went to every place.

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Whether it was a restaurant, a home, gas station, shopping markets.

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We told people that our dollars been missing for three days.

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And if they had seen her, please call us.

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We were at home when the phone rang and it was my sister.

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600 miles away.

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Hi, Karen.

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Dave, I just had an awful dream.

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She called, was kind of frantic and said she had a dream.

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It was dark, there was lights.

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She could see Nikki.

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Some lights, she said.

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No, of course it wasn't, it was just Nikki.

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And the number 16 kept popping up over and over.

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It was like two, three times I kept seeing this number 16.

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She kept seeing the number 16 popping up.

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At the time I didn't know what 16 meant.

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Just try to stay calm.

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I didn't know if she was vivid enough that she believed in it.

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Yeah, but I have to come down to see you.

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She had premonitions before, but this was so real.

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She knew that she was going to find him.

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On Friday, I was approached by the detective that had been assigned to this case.

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And he suspected that perhaps she stopped at one of the all night 24 hour gas stations in Placerville to fill up her car.

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There was, I believe, a car that was parked in the middle of the road.

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She had to go to the gas station to fill up her car.

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There was, I believe, four gas stations in this immediate area we were looking for.

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And I began asking them if they had any recollection of seeing this girl, this vehicle,

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if anything sounded familiar or similar to them.

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I remember going to the gas station in Placerville and I specifically recall going in and the clerk.

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He was a younger guy that worked there.

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Two or three days ago?

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I remember seeing them.

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You saw them?

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Yeah.

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He remembered her.

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When?

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Two days ago.

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He recalled the car.

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He remembered a little boy was with her.

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The sound was heard in the car.

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He didn't know the license plate.

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He didn't know if it matched, but the girl, the picture that was on the flyer,

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seemed to resemble the girl that he remembered having a conversation with.

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She said she had a conversation with the girl that was on the flyer.

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He remembered the car.

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He remembered her.

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He said she had a phone call.

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He said he had a phone call.

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He remembered the car.

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He said he had a phone call.

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He remembered the car.

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How did he go, though?

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I don't know, but I remember seeing him.

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You saw him?

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Yeah.

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He remembered her.

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He recalled the car.

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He remembered a little boy was with her.

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and they had some small talk where you off to.

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We're going to California for a new job.

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And he remembers her saying,

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she's really tired, but she's got to make the drive.

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She's gonna go up and see a friend, you know,

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and having to make that drive up Highway 50.

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Okay.

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He remembered specifically two things in particular.

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Her being tired and her having to drive

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through these windy mountain roads

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to go up there to go see a friend.

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Thanks.

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All kinds of things entered my mind.

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She could have been involved in an accident.

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She could have driven off the road.

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She could have had car trouble

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and somebody else could have, you know,

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stopped to help her and ended up taking her in the car.

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We were concerned that did she maybe get into an accident?

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Did she meet with some foul play?

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I mean, any number of things could have happened.

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Besides,

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I开始 a new job.

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And I started to dream about it.

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Can you imagine how many hours i spent with my family?

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Two hours and a half.

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And so,

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We've been visiting family in Sacramento.

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And around 2 o'clock, I woke my husband up and told him

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I needed to go home.

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I literally started shaking him awake.

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I need to go.

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I need to go home.

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I think we just go tomorrow?

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And he was saying, we can't wait until tomorrow.

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I said, no, I'm going to go now.

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What's the matter?

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I don't know.

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I needed to leave right now.

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Normally, I would have just went back to sleep,

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but I just kept bothering him until he finally said, OK.

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OK, we'll go.

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I just felt like there was something pulling me up the mountain.

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When you drive from Sacramento to Lake Tahoe,

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it turns into the mountains.

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We're on Highway 50.

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It was odd because I don't like traveling the mountain

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that night time.

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It's really a wandy and twisty road.

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You can go off the road.

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I was looking out the window.

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I was looking out the window.

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I was looking out the window.

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And as we're going around, bully on band,

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on the side of the road, I see this blackish white thing.

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And I didn't know what it was.

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And when I was right up on it, I couldn't tell that it was a woman.

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She was naked, totally naked and really white.

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I can see her body, and I can see that it was a woman.

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But I could not see her shadow.

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I just saw that woman on the side of the road.

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What? What?

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She wanted me to stop.

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My husband wanted to stop.

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Are you sure we can go back?

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And he said he was going to go back because he could probably

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help her.

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What if she wasn't dead?

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And I told him no.

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I didn't want to go back.

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She may be a ploy.

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You know, what if somebody was in the woods waiting to come out

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and then take our car or take us with the car for kill us?

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I asked him to please find the nearest phone.

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There's a phone right here.

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We drove on about another quarter mile.

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There's a ranger station up on the mountain.

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And I called 911.

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I had to report a body on the side of the road.

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They told me somebody would be there and to get in the truck

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and lock the door.

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We sat in the car and we waited, which seemed like hours,

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which was probably just minutes.

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The cop car pulled up.

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And I jumped out of the car.

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And I told him that I had seen a naked lady on the side of the road.

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And she was really white.

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And I thought she was dead.

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Get in the car.

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The officer told me, take us there.

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But stay back 200 yards.

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We pulled out of the parking lot and we drove.

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And then I said, Nikki, you're going to get in the car.

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I said, Nikki, this is it.

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There's a pool yard and they end up ahead.

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He had a big spotlight and he was looking.

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And then he came back down and told me that they hadn't found anything

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and that we should go home.

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I told my husband that I didn't think that they believed me

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and that they thought I was crazy and that they probably just stopped the search.

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But I know that I saw her on that road.

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Hey guys, how's it going? Not bad.

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Later in the shift that night, I met up with the officers

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that had gone up to the call that Debra Hoyt made.

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What's going on with Bullion Bent?

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We were speculating.

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I mean, maybe she's imagining it.

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Maybe it's a practical joke.

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Okay, so was she, was she a real woman?

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No, she was a real woman.

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She was a real woman.

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She was a real woman.

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I mean, she was imagining it.

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Maybe it's a practical joke.

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Okay, so was she, was she nuts?

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I mean, was she...

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No, no, no, no.

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She was very convincing.

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Yeah.

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She saw something.

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They believed her.

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It wasn't like they dismissed her as being a whack job,

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but they believed her.

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We got in the house and I just laid on my bed and kept crying.

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I kept trying to go to sleep, but...

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She kept popping in my head.

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The vision of her just kept popping in my head,

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and when it did, I would wake up and cry.

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I got a call to go back to the sheriff's department.

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I met with the aunt and uncle of Christine Scubish,

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who had just spent all night driving up to Placerville

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from Southern California.

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Okay, well, we want to help.

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Where can we go?

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They were concerned, obviously, for Christine and for Nikki,

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because nobody had seen or heard from them,

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and they had indicated to me that they wanted to start

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a new business, and they wanted to start a new business.

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They wanted to start a new business,

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and they had indicated to me that they wanted to start

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their own search.

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Okay, we're gonna go there now?

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No, you keep it in the back.

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I recommended that they get some rest.

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They were both very tired.

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Get some sleep and start fresh when the sun is up.

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As I was talking to them, I was becoming more suspicious,

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and there could be some connection between this naked woman

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and Christine Scubish.

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I just had a sixth sense.

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I thought I'm gonna go up into that area and search myself.

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I was desperate to find her along with my wife.

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As the time was clicking on, we started getting more and more worried.

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We knew that something had happened, but we didn't know what.

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As I drove up there, obviously, the sun is rising.

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It's getting brighter.

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I approached the Bullion Bend area.

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This is the area that Debra Hoyt had told the officers

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where she'd seen this naked woman.

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I was looking for anything that was out of the ordinary.

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It could have been debris on the roadway

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that ordinarily wouldn't be there.

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It could be skid marks off the side of the road.

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Anything that isn't ordinarily on the highway,

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I was gonna stop and investigate.

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Once I got into the Bullion Bend area, I slowed my car down.

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I saw a small tennis shoe, like a child's tennis shoe, on the road.

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I'm thinking, what are the odds that this is Niki Shu?

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I mean, this is exactly the location that I had been told.

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Debra Hoyt said she saw a naked woman on the shoulder.

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I could look down and actually see this was a very steep drop off.

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There was, you know, big pine trees all intermingled there.

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And as I'm looking down, I started to see debris.

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That's when I saw the red car.

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The whole roof had been peeled back on this car.

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And so the entire top part of the car was missing. It was gone.

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I came around to see if there was anybody in there.

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I realized at that point this is in fact Christine Scoobish.

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I reached and I tried to feel for a pulse.

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At that point I knew that she had died. She was deceased.

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What bothered me the most about this, not that seeing Christine like that,

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but looking across the car, that's what really got me there.

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He had basically the look of death. He didn't have any life looking at him.

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I took my light and I shined my light in his eyes to see if there's any reaction.

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And I saw no reaction, no pupil change. I didn't feel a pulse.

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I believe that Nikki too was dead.

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And then I've noticed that his chest, as he's laying his chest,

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rose a little bit like he took a breath.

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And I thought my mind was playing tricks on me. I thought I was seeing things.

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And then I got down close and I can actually feel shallow breaths.

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And I said, oh my God, he's alive.

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Nikki, stay with me. Nikki, stay with me.

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I'm not going to let you go.

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I'm not going to let you go.

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I said, oh my God, he's alive.

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Nikki, stay with me. Nikki, stay with me.

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I immediately got on the radio.

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Have you been EMT down here as soon as possible?

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I tried to hold his hand. I said, Nikki, if you can hear me, squeeze my hand.

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Stay with me. Stay with me.

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I tried to get him to interact with me.

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What?

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I just continued to repeat his name.

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Stay with me.

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I told him, you're going to be okay.

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Another deputy showed up and I called him down to where I was.

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I told him who Nikki was and I said, you got to stay here with him.

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You know, I'm afraid the family's coming.

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I didn't want them to see the condition of Christine or Nikki.

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And sure enough, Karen arrived.

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Stay back, please.

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And I had to put on my hands and say, stop.

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Stay back. Stay back.

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I kind of held Karen and I looked her in the face and I told her, cars down here.

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I found both Christine and Nikki.

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Watch your step. Watch your step.

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Careful.

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And I had to tell her, I said, Christine didn't make it. Christine died.

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No!

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It's okay. It's okay.

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Oh my God, Christine!

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It's okay. It's okay.

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But Nikki is alive.

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It's okay, Nikki.

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It's okay, buddy.

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Get your home, buddy.

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Everybody ready? One, two, three.

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It's okay, Nikki.

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Get your home safe.

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The firefighters, the paramedics, they did all the treatments.

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The next support everything and put them on a flat backboard to get them out of there

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and load them into an ambulance.

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Okay.

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We got the phone call.

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They found Chris and Nick.

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And my wife kept saying, well, how are they? Are they okay?

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And I had to tell her.

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Brenda? Chris is dead.

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Earlier today, police responded to a fatal car accident.

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My mother came to tell me I needed to see something on TV.

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23-year-old Christine Scoobish and her son, Nikki, went missing five days ago.

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Their car was found in a ravine. Christine was pronounced dead in the scene.

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I looked up and I saw the woman that I had saw inside the room.

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Remarkably, Nikki survived for five days without food or water.

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She had the same soft face.

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And if you could imagine her eyes closed, that would have been her.

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The woman that Deborah Hoyt saw could not have been Christine Scoobish

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because the night the Deborah Hoyt saw this woman,

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Christine Scoobish had already been dead for five days.

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The coroner's report indicated that death was immediate and that she died on impact.

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Christine Scoobish never took off her clothes, never climbed up the hill,

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never lied on the side of the road, never went back down and got redressed

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and put herself back in the car. None of that happened.

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She was lying dead in that car for five days before Deborah Hoyt ever saw anybody on the side of the road.

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When I walk into the room, I can see him there and he was trying to hold his hands up.

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Hi, Papa.

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Nikki, look at you.

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And he was pale, skinny, but he had a smile on his face.

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I walked over and not grabbed him hard or tight, but just held him as gently as a baby.

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And it's like we were happy.

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Although we lost our daughter, we were happy that Nikki was still there.

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Roughly about 17 years have passed since the accident happened.

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Most of the things that I do remember are just lots of flashes, mostly pictures.

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They're very vivid.

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The earliest ones I do remember being at my grandparents' house with my mother.

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I remember them having a conversation. I don't exactly know what it was about.

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That's about the earliest memory that I have.

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The closest memory that occurs after that is of the accident itself.

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I remember tumbling down the hill.

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It was just tree after tree after tree. We were just hitting them head on.

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I just remember waking up and being in the passenger seat next to my mother.

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I remember not knowing what to think, looking at my mom, and just kind of thinking she was asleep.

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I didn't think anything more than that, at least not that I remember.

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I remember seeing lights.

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I just remember that there was something right next to the car the entire time next to my mom.

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I have a very distinct and vivid picture of it in my head.

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It was just a light. It was a big light.

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And then through the back window of the car itself, I could also see the same thing next to the road.

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And it had a silhouette.

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There was no specific features, but I saw a lighted outline of a body.

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It was never something that scared me, and I didn't feel afraid when I saw it.

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Two weeks later, Brent and I decided to go to the crash site to see if there was anything else that was left down there behind that were Crises.

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We wanted to make sure that we got everything out of there.

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And as I got out of the car, there was a little mile marker.

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They said 60 miles, but they're pointing to Plassville.

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And I knew that my sister didn't have a dream. It was a premonition.

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The number 16 is popping up.

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And it all started making sense as I started adding the pieces.

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When you put all of the pieces of the puzzle together, you take the dream that my aunt had.

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The apparition sighting that Deborah Hoyt did see.

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Are you still wearing that woman on the side of the road?

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And the lights that I did see around the car.

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It had to have been an angel.

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Whether it was God's hand or just a mother looking after her son, I honestly don't know.

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But it was something greater than me, greater than anything that I've ever believed.

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I absolutely think something special happened here.

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People have asked before, is this some kind of a miracle? Yeah, I think it is a miracle.

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It's a whole number of series of events that I can't explain.

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And I don't know, I've often thought about it. I just don't have the answers.

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I would come in to the heliport and pre-flight the helicopter.

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Then we would settle in and try to gauge, listening to the police radio,

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of how the police would be able to get in and out of the car.

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And I would come in and see the police radio.

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And we would settle in and try to gauge, listening to the police radio,

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of how the day was going.

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I was working with a new crew member, Kenny Downs.

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He did not have any flight experience.

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And my job was to kind of guide him and show him the ropes.

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I'd only been in the unit a couple of weeks.

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So it was like having a brand new job.

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We noticed very quickly, it was a very quiet night.

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Around 10.30 or 11.00 o'clock that night, we decided that we should take the helicopter up

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and do our routine patrol, make our presence known.

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You listen and tell me what's happening.

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Kenny and I were flying.

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Kenny was shining the light, checking for anything that may be unusual.

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Checking rooftops of businesses, school grounds, and the expressways and roadways.

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I'm trying to make it.

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How much cake?

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The radio was quiet.

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There wasn't a lot of activity on the streets.

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There was virtually nothing in the sky.

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It was just a slow night all the way around.

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So you wouldn't think that that night would be a night that you remember for the rest of your life.

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We had been flying for about 45 minutes to an hour.

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A call came out that there was a burglary in progress.

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Then as we got near, which was only about a couple minutes, three minutes away,

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I saw a light flickering.

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The officer was shining his flashlight turning off and on, and I could tell where we were going.

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We were almost there.

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And they told us that it was a false alarm.

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We decided that we would just head back to the heliport and take a break.

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Enroute back to the heliport, we went over a group of trees.

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We cleared this clump of trees, and I saw something very unusual.

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I recall Kenny saying to me, Kenny, when did that tower get out there?

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And I said, tower, what tower?

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You got to tower with the light on it.

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He said, what are you talking about?

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I said that right there, so I shined the light on.

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And I looked over and saw a glowing object.

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And I said, what is that?

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That's definitely not a light on a tower.

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I got lower and a little closer.

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It was very bright. It had a pear shape.

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It just sat there, so we were kind of facing off with each other.

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It was looking at us, and we were looking at it.

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I kept asking Kenny, what is this thing?

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We just couldn't believe what we were seeing.

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It started gaining altitude, coming up to about our altitude.

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It stopped for a second.

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It kind of looked at us, kind of faced off, and then it started going to the right.

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And then to the left.

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It kind of hovered like we were doing it.

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So we were kind of faced off with each other.

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And then all of a sudden, it just takes off at warp speed.

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It just goes like a mile and a half in a second.

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As it disappeared from my sight, it had to be going 600 miles an hour.

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We just couldn't believe it. What is this thing?

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It would leave and it would be right back.

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00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:36,660
I saw a helicopter hovering over the GE property.

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00:38:37,660 --> 00:38:39,660
I could tell that it was the police helicopter.

487
00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:41,660
What do you got going on over at GE?

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I crossed the street in the park.

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I said, guys, you all need to come over here.

490
00:38:45,660 --> 00:38:48,660
We've got something chasing us. We're in GE parking lot.

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I moved on to the property to get a better look.

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00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:02,660
And I see the helicopter, and then off to one side, I see kind of a faint glowing light.

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00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:06,660
I see this orange glow right off the sky here. Do you see what we're seeing, Joe?

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I see it all around you.

495
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:13,660
You know, I'm talking to Kenny on the radio, and we're basically asking him,

496
00:39:13,660 --> 00:39:16,660
hey, what is it, guys? What are you seeing?

497
00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:23,660
I hear Kenny is chasing us. It's chasing us.

498
00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:25,660
I'm bringing this back where I'm going.

499
00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:27,660
I have no idea what that is.

500
00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:30,660
I'm thinking, this thing is going to be a big hit.

501
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,660
I'm thinking, this thing is going to hit a hotel road.

502
00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:38,660
I turn into it.

503
00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:41,660
We're chasing after it.

504
00:39:43,660 --> 00:39:47,660
If I was looking at my windshield, I want to know what it is.

505
00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:54,660
The whole time, you know, I'm chasing this object and everything, things are flashing through my mind.

506
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:58,660
Is it a plane, a balloon, some kind of aircraft?

507
00:39:59,660 --> 00:40:02,660
I can't keep my eye on it because they're moving,

508
00:40:02,660 --> 00:40:06,660
and I'm having to move to try to keep up and get a closer look at it.

509
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:14,660
I'm driving pretty fast, because I'm zigzagging through the buildings.

510
00:40:17,660 --> 00:40:21,660
It started getting farther and farther away from me where I couldn't keep up with it.

511
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:27,660
The last moment, it was unbelievable.

512
00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:31,660
It's over, Red Fireball.

513
00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:33,660
The cold of the season is coming.

514
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:39,660
Oh my God, all of a sudden, there come the fireballs.

515
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:54,660
The troops are on baseball, but they have to run.

516
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:56,660
We're going to go.

517
00:40:56,660 --> 00:41:00,660
When they fired out, they stayed equal distance to each other.

518
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:07,660
When they shot these fireballs out, one never passed the other one.

519
00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:10,660
It was just right in line.

520
00:41:10,660 --> 00:41:16,660
At that same time, I'm banking the helicopter hard to the left and turning

521
00:41:16,660 --> 00:41:19,660
because I didn't want these objects to hit us.

522
00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:25,660
I see these faint fireballs just kind of spurred out.

523
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:29,660
I'm going to go back to the other side.

524
00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:37,660
By then, I'm coming back up and around to see where it went, and it was gone.

525
00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:43,660
We were saying, where is it?

526
00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:50,660
There was nothing. It just vanished.

527
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:56,660
We circled the area and could not find any trace of anything.

528
00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:02,660
Just as it appeared in the beginning, it was gone in an instant.

529
00:42:04,660 --> 00:42:09,660
Once the unidentified flying object disappeared, we decided to head in.

530
00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:12,660
There wasn't a lot of conversation.

531
00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:26,660
At that point, I'm just kind of baffled, you know, what was it?

532
00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:34,660
We're trying to say that this was not a UFO.

533
00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:39,660
And we couldn't do it.

534
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:46,660
Do I believe in UFOs? Absolutely.

535
00:42:46,660 --> 00:42:47,660
Absolutely.

536
00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:51,660
I really don't know what it was.